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Post by nastygirl on May 4, 2005 11:23:06 GMT -5
Because she's whining about it. "Now that I know what happened, I don't wanna watch it!" Well, fine! DON'T watch it! Now I'm gonna go back and mark all my recent spoilers so I don't ruin someone's day! There was no whining, I was asked why I didnt just go and watch teh parts that werent talked about. I answered teh question because it was asked, plain and simple. Snapdragon, this IS teh place to do that and your tiny mistake was fixed, by me, with out incident. You didnt even recieve a warning about it. We just ask that there is a spoiler warning in teh title if spoilers are gonna be allowed and that when you DO give a spoiler, you mark it so that people who havent seen an episode have a chance to avoid that particulat part of that discussion. Thats enough of this. A simple disiplining about not marking spoilers has gotten WAY outta hand and should have NEVER been taken this far. Get back on topic in this thread, mark spoilers and get on with life.
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Post by snapdragon76 on May 4, 2005 12:43:37 GMT -5
Snapdragon, this IS teh place to do that and your tiny mistake was fixed, by me, with out incident. You didnt even recieve a warning about it. We just ask that there is a spoiler warning in teh title if spoilers are gonna be allowed and that when you DO give a spoiler, you mark it so that people who havent seen an episode have a chance to avoid that particulat part of that discussion. I appreciate your patience with me. I guess I was partly feeling a bit hurt by everything. Like I said, I'll try to keep teh whole marking thing in mind in teh future...
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Post by XerBlade on May 4, 2005 12:59:46 GMT -5
how is anything she said in any way immature? that was completely uncalled for and i for one am not gonna put up with it. it's one thing to question something that's been said or to debate an issue with someone but that little comment... consider this an official warning xer, you are on shaky ground. I think we've already established that I don't care.
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Post by ஐЅåddyஐ on May 4, 2005 13:18:39 GMT -5
good.
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Post by Antsy McPants on May 4, 2005 15:02:18 GMT -5
Wow, I totally didn't even see any of this until today. teh bottom line, as Saddy has stated is that spoilers are to be marked. This "rule" has been in effect since last August. Proof.I'm not getting into who did or didn't do what, I'm just making sure that everyone knows what we (Admins and Mods) expect when it comes to divulging critical information about teh plot of any movie/show/manga/book/whatever.
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Post by Emi-chan on May 4, 2005 16:10:53 GMT -5
There was no whining, I was asked why I didnt just go and watch teh parts that werent talked about. I answered teh question because it was asked, plain and simple. Snapdragon, this IS teh place to do that and your tiny mistake was fixed, by me, with out incident. You didnt even recieve a warning about it. We just ask that there is a spoiler warning in teh title if spoilers are gonna be allowed and that when you DO give a spoiler, you mark it so that people who havent seen an episode have a chance to avoid that particulat part of that discussion. Thats enough of this. A simple disiplining about not marking spoilers has gotten WAY outta hand and should have NEVER been taken this far. Get back on topic in this thread, mark spoilers and get on with life. I'm sorry... but I now hafta put my two cents in on this... Just WHAT were you gonna do about teh continuing of teh series if you missed this MAJOR plot point... You'd watch teh next episode and be like OMG WTF just happened? So I don't see why our talking about what happened in teh reciently passed episode of ANY show would need a spoiler warning. Now if it were something from episode 35 or something THEN we'd need a spoler... or if this were teh second or third go around... but by then we've all seen teh episodes. I'll give you... in teh future, for teh second go around... we WOULD need a spoiler tag there and all, but you don't need to get so anal about it. As for what Xer said... I don't see how it was a PERSONAL insult... insult yes... Personal yes... he didn't say anything like "Kenna is a big fat doodie head" or something. There's my two cents... Do to me as you will, but I think this entire issue is so pointless and "of a lesser intelegance" Yeah... I know some people don't like spoilers... but they happen and really we haven't given enough info for you to NOT watch teh episodes we've talked about. Just keep in mind you WILL need that information when teh series continues. and I'm shutting up now...
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Post by ஐЅåddyஐ on May 4, 2005 16:25:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry... but I now hafta put my two cents in on this... Just WHAT were you gonna do about teh continuing of teh series if you missed this MAJOR plot point... You'd watch teh next episode and be like OMG WTF just happened? So I don't see why our talking about what happened in teh reciently passed episode of ANY show would need a spoiler warning. Now if it were something from episode 35 or something THEN we'd need a spoler... or if this were teh second or third go around... but by then we've all seen teh episodes. because not everyone has seen it. just because you have, does not mean that everyone has. if it is giving away an important part of teh series then it needs to be marked as a spoiler. you can't just assume that everyone has seen teh same thing that you have. I'll give you... in teh future, for teh second go around... we WOULD need a spoiler tag there and all, but you don't need to get so anal about it. no one is being anal about anything. teh rules for spoilers are clear. it's not something that is up for debate. As for what Xer said... I don't see how it was a PERSONAL insult... insult yes... Personal yes... he didn't say anything like "Kenna is a big fat doodie head" or something. uh, yea, it was a personal insult. there aren't many rules here, but disrespecting other members is a no no. it's one thing to debate something that has been said, it is quite another to take a jab at someone because of something that has been said. There's my two cents... Do to me as you will, but I think this entire issue is so pointless and "of a lesser intelegance" Yeah... I know some people don't like spoilers... but they happen and really we haven't given enough info for you to NOT watch teh episodes we've talked about. Just keep in mind you WILL need that information when teh series continues. and I'm shutting up now...
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Post by Emi-chan on May 4, 2005 16:35:50 GMT -5
And I can see that you completely missed my point... and I don't feel like explaining it.
I'm not debating... I'm making an observation from my point of view.
Uh... no... it wasn't. I now you have rules for a reason... but in that case he wasn't being malious or anything... he was making an observation. I'm pretty sure if he wanted to insult her he would have and you'd KNOW it.
If someone were to have said something like what Xer said to K.enna to me I really wouldn't take it personaly... or as an insult... just as their opinion of me. I really don't think being told "thank you for showing your intelligence" or whatever he said is gonna make anyone cry or anything and if it does they need more help than just being "insulted."
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Post by ஐЅåddyஐ on May 4, 2005 16:51:01 GMT -5
what point did i miss exactly?
and it's not what was said, but teh intent behind it. it was meant to be malicious and insulting. period. calling someone immature is an insult.
i have no idea why you guys are so up in arms about this. seriously. you are getting your panties all in a bunch about something trivial.
emi, i honestly don't know why you are getting so pissed about this. teh spoiler thing is just common courtesy and i really don't appreciate teh mocking that you guys are doing with teh spoiler thing. i take that as a personal jab and i really don't appreciate it. to me it's just a slap in teh face for me and teh other mods trying to enforce teh rules here.
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Post by Emi-chan on May 4, 2005 17:07:50 GMT -5
and it's not what was said, but teh intent behind it. it was meant to be malicious and insulting. period. calling someone immature is an insult. Then for teh past seven years I've been issued PERSONAL insults on an almost daily basis? Is THAT what you are saying? That makes no sense. Like I said... if he INTENDED it to be an INSULT or MALICIOUS I'm sure it would have been. Xer is not THAT underhanded. Okay... this whole "debate" if you will began with a simple satirical joke, my sig and icon included. Sarcasm and Satire are sometimes hard to catch in this particular medium so I understand that misunderstanding. Also... teh entire handling of this is generally mis done... if a topic, no matter HOW it became teh way it is, has "Contains Spoilers" in teh title... one will assume spoilers are in there in leaps and bounds and thus not read it if they don't like spoilers. A better way to handle it would be to make a NEW "Spoiler free" topic and just leave teh spoiler one alone since EVERY post DOES have a spoiler tag, if only by technicality.
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Post by ஐЅåddyஐ on May 4, 2005 17:13:50 GMT -5
teh only reason it says contains spoilers is because Doose of the Pink Panties put it there. that is what started this whole thing, teh fact that there were spoilers and they were not properly marked.
personally, spoilers don't bother me. people could give away every little bit of a movie or tv show and i'd be fine with it but a lot of people aren't. i would just appreciate it if in teh future they are marked, that's all.
and yes, sarcasm doesn't translate well in type.
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Post by Emi-chan on May 4, 2005 17:21:49 GMT -5
teh only reason it says contains spoilers is because Doose of the Pink Panties put it there. that is what started this whole thing, teh fact that there were spoilers and they were not properly marked. and I quote... "It don't matter HOW it got put there" It was in teh title thus by technicality EVERY post had a spoiler tag. it does matter how it got there. she put it there because there were unmarked spoilers.
And trust me... even when talking if I'm about to give somethign away about a show I will warn people, "I'm about to spoil this for you, do you mind?" and continue depending on their response I'll either go on and tell them or not. However because teh TITLE has " Contains spoilers" that part of my brain, using COMMON SENSE, thought 'okay, we're in teh clear... um, no. common sense would dictate that if it had been marked initially. it was not. k3nna marked it. teh subsequent posts were nothing more than arguing about teh proper marking of spoilers. it was not marked before teh spoilers were posted.post is marked by title' which is why I DIDN'T change teh title for my post. If I'd've known from teh getgo that a title "spoiler tag" does not cover for teh following posts I would have put a spoiler tag... and when we were told about it I went back to put a spoiler on my tag, but it had already been done for me so I adde, so it would have my own personal touch, "-ifficness".
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Post by Wo0tusses on May 5, 2005 6:48:10 GMT -5
Then for teh past seven years I've been issued PERSONAL insults on an almost daily basis? Is THAT what you are saying? PREFACE i am honestly not pointing any fingers in this rant, though i am using emi-chan's post as a jumping point for my own arguement, it is not ment to be directly aimed at her, and is intended to be a broad and general statement
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this is really gonna sound like i'm sucking up quite a bit, and if so, so be it. but saddy does put a lot of working into these boards, more so than i would really be able to imagine. you see how often she changes themes, and how often she actually does take into account our suggestions. she wants this to be OUR[/i] (as in everyones) community. she just is teh one who is willing to put teh most work and dedication into it and she has my utmost respect for it and by being a folder squater, or not participating in certain things, i can completely understand how that would be considered as basically a direct insult by saddy, i would be just as upset by it if i were admining a community, and people didn't really give a shit about it. and by not, at teh very least, respecting teh very lax rules, they're not even really rules they're basically guidelines and suggestions, that are openly posted here about it, it's just a huge slap in teh face to her, and to a even more mild disrespect to teh other posters who do follow teh suggestions. i don't want this place to turn preschool where if one child is abusing a priviledge, then all teh children loose that priviledge. and honestly, as teh immature adults that WE ALL (see basicaly any other thread where everyone is goofing around, and poking fun) are i think it really shouldn't even be an issue. Also... teh entire handling of this is generally mis done... if a topic, no matter HOW it became teh way it is, has "Contains Spoilers" in teh title... one will assume spoilers are in there in leaps and bounds and thus not read it if they don't like spoilers. A better way to handle it would be to make a NEW "Spoiler free" topic and just leave teh spoiler one alone since EVERY post DOES have a spoiler tag, if only by technicality. even thoguh teh thread title does have "SPOILERS" in it i don't think that directly implies that every post has spoilers in it, and granted technically everypost is generally gonna have "SPOILERS" above teh actual meat of teh text, i highly doubt anyone actually looks at teh subject line of every post they read
take for example how i changed teh subject line of this post.
so in my honest opinion, i don't think it is too much to ask that spoilers be put into every post containing such either before you post if you know what you hafta say pertains to it, or if you proof read it and notice it has somethign you may not have wanted pointed out before seeing it for yourself.
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Post by Emi-chan on May 5, 2005 7:58:25 GMT -5
PREFACE i am honestly not pointing any fingers in this rant, though i am using emi-chan's post as a jumping point for my own arguement, it is not ment to be directly aimed at her, and is intended to be a broad and general statement
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this is really gonna sound like i'm sucking up quite a bit, and if so, so be it. but saddy does put a lot of working into these boards, more so than i would really be able to imagine. you see how often she changes themes, and how often she actually does take into account our suggestions. she wants this to be OUR[/i] (as in everyones) community. she just is teh one who is willing to put teh most work and dedication into it and she has my utmost respect for it and by being a folder squater, or not participating in certain things, i can completely understand how that would be considered as basically a direct insult by saddy, i would be just as upset by it if i were admining a community, and people didn't really give a shit about it. and by not, at teh very least, respecting teh very lax rules, they're not even really rules they're basically guidelines and suggestions, that are openly posted here about it, it's just a huge slap in teh face to her, and to a even more mild disrespect to teh other posters who do follow teh suggestions. i don't want this place to turn preschool where if one child is abusing a priviledge, then all teh children loose that priviledge. and honestly, as teh immature adults that WE ALL (see basicaly any other thread where everyone is goofing around, and poking fun) are i think it really shouldn't even be an issue. even thoguh teh thread title does have "SPOILERS" in it i don't think that directly implies that every post has spoilers in it, and granted technically everypost is generally gonna have "SPOILERS" above teh actual meat of teh text, i highly doubt anyone actually looks at teh subject line of every post they read
take for example how i changed teh subject line of this post.
so in my honest opinion, i don't think it is too much to ask that spoilers be put into every post containing such either before you post if you know what you hafta say pertains to it, or if you proof read it and notice it has somethign you may not have wanted pointed out before seeing it for yourself.[/quote] Wooty... SAddy... I moved this arguement to a new home if you wanna continue this debate with me since this IS teh FMA discussion and not teh "Yell agout spoilers. And if you'll go back and looke teh disregard for spoilers started around teh time teh "Contains spoilers" tag was put up, and before then teh spoilers were to a minimum or marked. Or at least we TRIED to keep them that way. Anywho... back to teh FMA topic... Imma re-watch it tonight because I know that in my dazed stupor Saturday I missed something.
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Post by snapdragon76 on May 5, 2005 9:39:25 GMT -5
Imma re-watch it tonight because I know that in my dazed stupor Saturday I missed something. I honestly don't know if Imma or not. I guess it'll depend on my mood and state of mind at teh time. And also how tired I am...
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