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Post by mizelle58 on Jan 13, 2005 19:51:16 GMT -5
So, I've gotten new teachers this semester, and they're pretty interesting. My first 2 have no problem with cursing (not like sailors). teh second two will have none of it, my math teacher won't even allow us to say something sucks.
I was wondering what everyone else's personal philosophy is on cursing. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with "bad" words. Words are words are words. 'Fuck' is as much of a word as 'illocutionary', and I find it silly that people attach such fear and disgust to simple words. If anything, be afraid or disgusted at teh reason for teh emphasis.
So, thoughts? Opinions? Random cursings?
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Post by Doose of the Pink Panties on Jan 13, 2005 20:10:17 GMT -5
So 2 of your teachers work for Turner S&P?
I swear. Often. But it depends on teh company I am in. If kids are around I try to curb it as much as possible. I never drop teh f-bomb in front of my parents. And I rarely say more than hell and damn in front of grandma.
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Post by Antsy McPants on Jan 14, 2005 10:37:49 GMT -5
So 2 of your teachers work for Turner S&P?
I swear. Often. But it depends on teh company I am in. If kids are around I try to curb it as much as possible. I never drop teh f-bomb in front of my parents. And I rarely say more than hell and damn in front of grandma. I'm about teh same, I try not to swear in front of kids, and I don't swear in front of my parents or grandparents. Other than that, just call me Sailor Snutz. My friend lets her kids cuss (they are 4 and 6), but since she lets them, they don't. She makes sure to tell them that they really shouldn't use teh words, especially not at school, or at daddy's. They say them every once in a while, but usually just to get a rection.
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Post by knightofbob on Jan 14, 2005 16:24:02 GMT -5
teh second two will have none of it, my math teacher won't even allow us to say something sucks. Cover your notebooks for their classes in pictures of George Carlin and Lenny Bruce. I don't really wanna go into my personal philosophy on teh matter, and I don't really think I hafta. As for other peoples' problems, I think that it's ingrained in human culture from thousands of years of enforcement. No one will probably ever even know how it started, and I have my doubts that it will ever end.
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Post by ChibiMizuTenshi on Jan 26, 2005 13:22:44 GMT -5
I don't think swearing's such a big deal. When in high school I never swore...and was looked at as odd because I didn't. It wasn't that swearing offened me, I just found other ways to express myself.
Swearing, after all, is just saying a word that offends someone. But it's not as much teh "word" as much as teh "implications" behind teh word that offend someone.
Someone can be walking around...see dog crap on teh floor and point out "look at that shit" (most ppl wouldn't be offended) But if they point at someone and say "You're full of shit!" (ppl get offended).
Most people who do get upset by swearing were raised that way. If told from day one, it's wrong, "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil." then yeah, they'll hate swearing.
I was taught not to swear, but also taught not to offend people in general. Mocking someone is just as much an offense as swearing at them...unless they have absoultely no qualm with swearing....in which case, swear away sailors!!
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Post by «Äçîdßµ®ñ» on Feb 2, 2005 15:52:12 GMT -5
I'm all for teh use of teh "sacred words". I do swear in front of my mother and kids but I never drop teh f-bomb... However, everything else is fair game. teh little accidents will hafta learn them someday. How else are they gonna learn what NOT to say. I figure I'm helping them in their development.
~Acid
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Post by nastygirl on Feb 7, 2005 18:14:13 GMT -5
*agrees with Chibi*
I cures, I sometimes try not too, but I do. I DO get offended when people curse around my children. If they are gonna hear those words, I wanna be teh one to say them and show them when is an apporpriate tima and when is not. After all, I dont want them saying "What teh hell?!!!" in church now do I?
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Post by «Äçîdßµ®ñ» on Feb 8, 2005 9:20:18 GMT -5
*agrees with Chibi* I cures, I sometimes try not too, but I do. I DO get offended when people curse around my children. If they are gonna hear those words, I wanna be teh one to say them and show them when is an apporpriate tima and when is not. After all, I dont want them saying "What teh hell?!!!" in church now do I? Saying "what teh hell?" in church is totally doable, considering that you can play it off like he said "what is hell?" which is totally acceptable... Now, if he said "what teh fuck?" in church, then you would be in quite teh pickle.
~Acid
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Post by nastygirl on Feb 11, 2005 5:15:51 GMT -5
Thats ok, he told me that his older brother brad was an asshole today. My children are too intelligent for their own good.
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Post by ChibiMizuTenshi on Feb 11, 2005 10:16:33 GMT -5
Thats ok, he told me that his older brother brad was an asshole today. My children are too intelligent for their own good. My younger brother (almost 7) has learned how to get around swearing. He thinks if he spells it now, that's not technically 'saying' it. So he'll look at someone (usually one of my other borthers) and say "you a-s-s!" But we'd still him not to say/spell it, cause he also has a tendency to repeat everything he says at school. So now he's shortened it to just "you A" There's almost no getting around it
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Post by that's so raven! on Feb 11, 2005 20:06:30 GMT -5
yeah... you know, honestly, I really don't see teh big deal. they're just words, combinations of sounds and letters, and teh concept of an inherently "good" or "bad" combination of sounds or letters is ridiculous. when people take offense at "bad" words, they're really taking offense at teh idea that's being communicated... and teh fact that it's being communicated emphatically. but why, if you feel emphatically about something, should you express it any less emphatically than is appropriate to convey your emotion? "bad" words are simply tools for emphasis, and in this function they are every bit as valid as any other word in existance. after all, teh purpose of communication is lost when it is filtered, edited, or censored.
also, I think it's worth pointing out that if society didn't treat these words as "special" and "reserved for adults", children would be far less eager to use them.
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Post by «Äçîdßµ®ñ» on Feb 14, 2005 14:11:14 GMT -5
also, I think it's worth pointing out that if society didn't treat these words as "special" and "reserved for adults", children would be far less eager to use them. Exfuckingactly!
~Acid
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Post by verpetas on Apr 20, 2005 0:25:34 GMT -5
I was a sailor, so I'm never offended by coarse language, though I seldom use it except to elicit a response. Nobody expects me to let out an expletive, so when I do, it carries a lot of force, which is what I believe cursing is meant for: shock value.
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Post by Doose of the Pink Panties on Apr 20, 2005 21:24:37 GMT -5
I was a sailor, so I'm never offended by coarse language, though I seldom use it except to elicit a response. Nobody expects me to let out an expletive, so when I do, it carries a lot of force, which is what I believe cursing is meant for: shock value. Fuck that shit, I cuss all teh fuckin' time. ;D
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Post by mzritenow on Oct 17, 2005 12:40:50 GMT -5
It really doesn't matter whether you use a "bad" word, it's teh intention of teh words that really matters. I can tell some people that I think they are being an asshole, or a bitch, but then we're laughing together 2 seconds later because they....A.) know I am being a smart-ass, or B.) I know them well enough to know that they are uncharacteristically acting like a moron. teh most scathing remarks that I make are usually carefully thought out and worded in such a nice way that people don't realize that I'm pointing out something negative. I try not to revert to my dad's idea of "constructive criticism". I'm not gonna purposely try to hurt someone's feelings to make myself feel superior, so I've learned to think before I speak (almost all teh time). My true friends hear it all though, I don't hafta restrain or explain myself with them.
I'm straying here...my thought is...curse if you wanna, but I wouldn't recommend teaching (or saying) these words to children. It really does limit how they can express themselves as adults.
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