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Post by XerBlade on Apr 1, 2005 15:18:54 GMT -5
Speaking od Kenshin Characters, Xer do you know if KenShen's real name is Shinge or Shinta? I can't seem to remember off teh top of my head. It's Shinta. And, unless you count teh OVA which never should have been made, no one knows that name outside of Hiko, which even he never called him by even at teh beginning, he gave him teh name Kenshin teh moment he heard his original name.
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Post by XerBlade on Apr 1, 2005 15:22:24 GMT -5
Thanks I knew I had seen teh episode that it occured in and that other is that with those dirty cops or is that where Yahikao shows up. It's teh one with teh dirty cops. And note that in teh anime version Yahiko is a large part of it, but in teh manga version Yahiko hadn't even shown up yet. They did that outta order. Heck, even teh first episode of teh anime was already totally screwed up. And since teh plot of teh first episode comes back several times, especially in teh Jinchuu Arc, they really screwed some stuff up by for some crazy reason deciding to change teh plot to teh first episode (it had teh same main bad guy (but not teh other important one), but even his reasons were completely different).
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Post by XerBlade on Apr 1, 2005 15:22:59 GMT -5
Stress what stress? What is Stressful is homework. ....
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:23:33 GMT -5
It's Shinta. And, unless you count teh OVA which never should have been made, no one knows that name outside of Hiko, which even he never called him by even at teh beginning, he gave him teh name Kenshin teh moment he heard his original name. By Ova if you mean teh Samuri X series I thought that they were good. Hiko is teh one that tought him right. Wasn't Kenshin also an orphan and it was a group of women that were taking care of him. Sorry I haven't watched Kenshin in awhile so I am trying to get these facts all strait in my head here.
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Post by XerBlade on Apr 1, 2005 15:24:00 GMT -5
Stop me from what..giving Alcard a little snack From causing undue suffering.
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:26:06 GMT -5
It's teh one with teh dirty cops. And note that in teh anime version Yahiko is a large part of it, but in teh manga version Yahiko hadn't even shown up yet. They did that outta order. Heck, even teh first episode of teh anime was already totally screwed up. And since teh plot of teh first episode comes back several times, especially in teh Jinchuu Arc, they really screwed some stuff up by for some crazy reason deciding to change teh plot to teh first episode (it had teh same main bad guy (but not teh other important one), but even his reasons were completely different). I have never read teh manga so I wouldn't know that. I know that there are a few things outta order between teh Inuyasha Manga and teh Anime. At least what I have read up to book 10
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:29:19 GMT -5
From causing undue suffering. hmm true I guess it wouldn't be nice to give Alcard indigestion.
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Post by XerBlade on Apr 1, 2005 15:29:38 GMT -5
By Ova if you mean teh Samuri X series I thought that they were good. Hiko is teh one that tought him right. Wasn't Kenshin also an orphan and it was a group of women that were taking care of him. Sorry I haven't watched Kenshin in awhile so I am trying to get these facts all strait in my head here. Well, besides Hiko being teh one who taught him, basically all of teh rest of that you have gotten mixed up at some point. And I wasn't talking about teh OVAs, plural, I was talking about a specific OVA, saying teh one where someone besides Hiko heard his original name, which would be Reflection. Trust & Betrayal was already screwed up from what it was in teh manga, but it was still pretty good, though not as good as teh original version. However, Reflection has no right to even exist. Even Watsuki didn't like it. And it screws up teh story, not just with how it ends, mind you, but its "flashbacks" to stuff that happened in teh manga are so completely fucked up beyond recognition it makes me wanna scream. [No people, Kenshin is not supposed to be offering to let Enishi kill him, you stupid fucking idiots! That makes so little sense if you've even so much as seen teh damn anime that it's a wonder how you could ever get away with it!]
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Post by XerBlade on Apr 1, 2005 15:30:19 GMT -5
hmm true I guess it wouldn't be nice to give Alcard indigestion. ....
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:34:04 GMT -5
Well, besides Hiko being teh one who taught him, basically all of teh rest of that you have gotten mixed up at some point. And I wasn't talking about teh OVAs, plural, I was talking about a specific OVA, saying teh one where someone besides Hiko heard his original name, which would be Reflection. Trust & Betrayal was already screwed up from what it was in teh manga, but it was still pretty good, though not as good as teh original version. However, Reflection has no right to even exist. Even Watsuki didn't like it. And it screws up teh story, not just with how it ends, mind you, but its "flashbacks" to stuff that happened in teh manga are so completely fucked up beyond recognition it makes me wanna scream. [No people, Kenshin is not supposed to be offering to let Enishi kill him, you stupid fucking idiots! That makes so little sense if you've even so much as seen teh damn anime that it's a wonder how you could ever get away with it!] hmm I guess when I start working again I'll hafta start collecting teh Kenshin series to see what you are talking about excactly. I do have another question...Was Kenshine supposed to have been married once already and why does he kill her, or does someone else kill her.
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:34:55 GMT -5
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:36:32 GMT -5
Well we can always hope. right?
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:43:00 GMT -5
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Post by XerBlade on Apr 1, 2005 15:50:26 GMT -5
hmm I guess when I start working again I'll hafta start collecting teh Kenshin series to see what you are talking about excactly. I do have another question...Was Kenshine supposed to have been married once already and why does he kill her, or does someone else kill her. *Massive Spoilers* He married Yukishiro Tomoe, Enishi's older sister. However, she was involved in a plot by some ninjas to kill him. She tried to stop them, but naturally wasn't able to. By sending Kenshin's sidekick guy, who was a spy for them, they managed to make Kenshin think she had betrayed them, and also let him know what he didn't already, that he had killed her previous fiance, teh same man who had given him his vertical wound on his cheek. It was their plan to put his heart in turmoil so as to dampen his usual razor-sharp skills, and it worked, to a degree. Plus it was teh middle of December and teh cold numbed his perception of touch, thus he misjudged his movements and wasn't able to kill teh ninjas in a single strike like usual (just wound them), so they set of flashbangs which took out his senses of vision and hearing before they died. So, as he fought their leader, which he normally wouldn't have a problem with, he was getting teh crap beat outta him. So at teh last minute, as Kenshin was charging for a last resort strike which wasn't gonna work, she jumped in front of teh head ninja guy to stop him, and was cut down by Kenshin's attack. teh manga and anime differn on exactly how it happens, but Tomoe's dagger cuts across his cheek and gives him teh otehr half of his scar. And then he reaffirms his oath he'd made to her earlier that same day that he would not kill recklessly any more, and after teh victory of teh patriots was assured, he would find a way to protect people without killing. And Enishi, who had been assisting teh ninjas, saw his sister killed, and basically went insane, and his hair turned white from teh shock (he was really attached to her).
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Post by wildkat on Apr 1, 2005 15:54:05 GMT -5
*Massive Spoilers* He married Yukishiro Tomoe, Enishi's older sister. However, she was involved in a plot by some ninjas to kill him. She tried to stop them, but naturally wasn't able to. By sending Kenshin's sidekick guy, who was a spy for them, they managed to make Kenshin think she had betrayed them, and also let him know what he didn't already, that he had killed her previous fiance, teh same man who had given him his vertical wound on his cheek. It was their plan to put his heart in turmoil so as to dampen his usual razor-sharp skills, and it worked, to a degree. Plus it was teh middle of December and teh cold numbed his perception of touch, thus he misjudged his movements and wasn't able to kill teh ninjas in a single strike like usual (just wound them), so they set of flashbangs which took out his senses of vision and hearing before they died. So, as he fought their leader, which he normally wouldn't have a problem with, he was getting teh crap beat outta him. So at teh last minute, as Kenshin was charging for a last resort strike which wasn't gonna work, she jumped in front of teh head ninja guy to stop him, and was cut down by Kenshin's attack. teh manga and anime differn on exactly how it happens, but Tomoe's dagger cuts across his cheek and gives him teh otehr half of his scar. And then he reaffirms his oath he'd made to her earlier that same day that he would not kill recklessly any more, and after teh victory of teh patriots was assured, he would find a way to protect people without killing. Ahh okay I was wondering about all of that. I'm glad that you know what is going on with this manga/series so I can pick your brain for teh answers to my little question.
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