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Post by XerBlade on Feb 2, 2005 15:17:37 GMT -5
Actually code AND paint BOTH have nothing to do with it. I paint and do photoshop/webdesign so I see both sides of teh argument. But paint reality DOES apply to teh computer code colours. I just spent an hour trying to find a blue text that worked on my grey background for a class project. Blue is harer to read on grey no matter where you are. Thats just teh way teh colour is. (chalk it up to stupid colour theory 'cool colours' if you want but I reject colour theory reality and insert my own) Yes teh one grey comes up in red in photoshop, but teh other one comes up in blue. And why does it even matter?! :: goes back to sticking pins into a Chibi voodoo doll :: Oh yeah, I forgot I was also gonna restate my point in a more specific and easy-to-understand way (if you can call it that).... You see by electromagnetic waves of varying wavelengths and amplitudes entering your eye, and your brain interprets those waves digitally (though in a much more cplex and precise digital funtion than a computer processor is capable of, but it makes no difference other than in extremely fine detail anyway). And color differences and how they stand out against one another are determined by teh extremity of teh differences in wavelength, amplitude, or both. That is also exactly how computers display color (NOT paint, whcih doesn't even take any of this into consideration, considering it was invented before anyone knew what an electromagnetic wave was). Anyway, so, according to some basic physics and biology, what I have said is actually correct. However, art classes (art classes == evil, btw [teh reason Naoki dropped outta being an art major, though he's still planning to be an artist]) train you to look at everything a certain way, and continually drill it into you. teh result is causing teh way you think about it to be altered, and really filtered is probably teh better term to convey this meaning, though teh actual image being viewed has not changed. In other words, teh problem here is not an issue with reality (which is bound by a constant set of rules, though complex), but instead it is a psychological issue.
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Post by snapdragon76 on Feb 2, 2005 15:18:11 GMT -5
Well, Xer. I gave in and dl Firefox and guess what? I wuv it! I don't get any of teh problems I had with IE and teh pages load a lot faster and no popups! Whoo! I was worried about transferring all my favorites over, but gues what? It did it for me! Wheee!! What, still no shaking bed smiliy?
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Post by Peleia on Feb 2, 2005 15:22:01 GMT -5
Well, Xer. I gave in and dl Firefox and guess what? I wuv it! I don't get any of teh problems I had with IE and teh pages load a lot faster and no popups! Whoo! I was worried about transferring all my favorites over, but gues what? It did it for me! Wheee!! What, still no shaking bed smiliy? Yeah, I wuv firefox too. Mostly little things like tabs. I wuv tabs! And being able to single out and view just one frame from a website. (Maybe you can do that with IE, but I haven't figured out how.)
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Post by stampededtyphoon on Feb 2, 2005 15:25:09 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I forgot I was also gonna restate my point in a more specific and easy-to-understand way (if you can call it that).... You see by electromagnetic waves of varying wavelengths and amplitudes entering your eye, and your brain interprets those waves digitally (though in a much more cplex and precise digital funtion than a computer processor is capable of, but it makes no difference other than in extremely fine detail anyway). And color differences and how they stand out against one another are determined by teh extremity of teh differences in wavelength, amplitude, or both. That is also exactly how computers display color (NOT paint, whcih doesn't even take any of this into consideration, considering it was invented before anyone knew what an electromagnetic wave was). Anyway, so, according to some basic physics and biology, what I have said is actually correct. However, art classes (art classes == evil, btw [teh reason Naoki dropped outta being an art major, though he's still planning to be an artist]) train you to look at everything a certain way, and continually drill it into you. teh result is causing teh way you think about it to be altered, and really filtered is probably teh better term to convey this meaning, though teh actual image being viewed has not changed. In other words, teh problem here is not an issue with reality (which is bound by a constant set of rules, though complex), but instead it is a psychological issue. Whoah.........somewhere in teh middle of reading that post, I think my brain [which has been badly "overworked" lately, anyway], just kinda' went *Pffft!* and blew a gasket....... Color IS very "subjective", really, since know one can be really sure they see a particular color teh exact same way someone else does.
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Post by stampededtyphoon on Feb 2, 2005 15:26:38 GMT -5
Yes! Actually, I really should get on with it...like, I was gonna do a story for my berfday but this totally messed it up. Check yer' PM's for teh first suggestion
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Post by XerBlade on Feb 2, 2005 15:30:03 GMT -5
I bet you did great, stampers! But yeah, I hate presentations too. A couple of times I swear I was about to pass out right in front of everyone. Presentations give me a small piece of teh feeling I had when teh doctor took my blood for a test at my last visit (a couple months ago). She had to keep reminding me to breath constantly, saying she didn't want me to die on her in teh middle of teh blood drawing. And then she had to go to teh other arm after that because she wasn't able to get any blood outta teh left one (characteristic of me, it's a curse... I'm really hard to get blood outta). And it was worse that time around (she couldn't finish telling me to breath before having to say it again).
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Post by snapdragon76 on Feb 2, 2005 15:34:02 GMT -5
Amon was sitting by Haku's river, lost in thought. He sensed a presence nearby. He looked up and saw Chichiri standing there. He was wearing his mask since Amon didn't see any scar. Chichiri pointed to teh grass next to Amon.
"Mind if I sit a bit, noda?"
Amon shook his head, "No, of course not. By all means."
Chichiri nodded his thanks and sat. "You seem to be a man with a lot on his mind, noda," he commented.
Amon chuckled wryly. "Yes, I suppose so. I suppose I'm feeling a little anxious, is all."
Chichiri nodded. "Yes, I would imagine, what with a baby on teh way, noda."
"Yes, and teh fact that Snap seems to be frustrated by being on bedrest. I know she says she's fine, but I know how she really feels. After all, there is teh empathic bond we share. Not only that, but I know she's in more pain than she let's on. I don't feel as though I'm doing her much good."
"I wouldn't say that, noda. I know, just by you being there to see her though it, it does her a temendous amount of good, noda. Besides, I know she's made of strong stuff by teh way she stood up to Seiryuu, noda. I feel she'll be a fine leader of her clan and she loves you very much, noda. I believe she'd be willing to go through a great deal because of that."
Amon smiled. "And I would do teh same for her," he added quietly.
Chichiri nodded again. "That's a given, noda."
teh two of them sat in silence for a while.
I hope that was OK, Emi-chan. My first time using 'chiri and I wanted to make sure I got him right.
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Post by snapdragon76 on Feb 2, 2005 15:36:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I wuv firefox too. Mostly little things like tabs. I wuv tabs! And being able to single out and view just one frame from a website. (Maybe you can do that with IE, but I haven't figured out how.) Well, I just started using it, so I don't quite know all teh ina and out yet. I was just impressed I didn't hafta transfer all my favorites by hand!
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Post by XerBlade on Feb 2, 2005 15:40:15 GMT -5
Well, Xer. I gave in and dl Firefox and guess what? I wuv it! I don't get any of teh problems I had with IE and teh pages load a lot faster and no popups! Whoo! I was worried about transferring all my favorites over, but gues what? It did it for me! Wheee!! What, still no shaking bed smiliy? Ooh, I just wuv Firefox. So much faster, uses so much less memory, no popups, and no spyware (for this computer teh first thing I did was immediately go straight to downloading Firefox and have used nothing but it since, and I auto-scan for spyware every night, and thus far have found not a trace of spyware even once). Plus there's teh tabbed browsing (which also takes even less memory), which I find really nifty, since I tend to open so many windows at once, so it cleans up my taskbar a bit (I always have a bunch of other things open too). And it doesn't allow scripts (which or useful only to annoy you or do bad things to your computer). And on my incredibly slow connection that takes forever just to load teh HTML of a page I can read teh page that has been loaded so far without having to wait for all teh code to load (another nifty thing). Plus, along with that, it doesn't completely screw up everything like IE does if there's an error somewhere in loading teh page. And it gives me teh built-in ability to block ad banners (which takes some know-how though). It will transfer bookmarks over from any browser, not just IE, and did I mention it was easy to use? Oh yeah, and teh built-in download manager is really nifty as well, but it does have a couple of bugs left to work out that I found (though most people probably wouldn't even find them). Not bad for a version 1.0.
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Post by XerBlade on Feb 2, 2005 15:43:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I wuv firefox too. Mostly little things like tabs. I wuv tabs! And being able to single out and view just one frame from a website. (Maybe you can do that with IE, but I haven't figured out how.) You can do it in IE if you study teh source code and then manipulate teh address bar a bit to fit.... In other words, no, just forget about it.
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Post by XerBlade on Feb 2, 2005 15:47:53 GMT -5
Well, I just started using it, so I don't quite know all teh ina and out yet. I was just impressed I didn't hafta transfer all my favorites by hand! You couldn't do that anyway. teh favorites are stored in a different format.
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Post by Peleia on Feb 2, 2005 15:49:29 GMT -5
You can do it in IE if you study teh source code and then manipulate teh address bar a bit to fit.... In other words, no, just forget about it. Yeah, I use that feature supprisingly often. It totally bugs me how some people choose to lay out their websites.
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Post by snapdragon76 on Feb 2, 2005 16:22:03 GMT -5
Ooh, I just wuv Firefox. So much faster, uses so much less memory, no popups, and no spyware (for this computer teh first thing I did was immediately go straight to downloading Firefox and have used nothing but it since, and I auto-scan for spyware every night, and thus far have found not a trace of spyware even once). Plus there's teh tabbed browsing (which also takes even less memory), which I find really nifty, since I tend to open so many windows at once, so it cleans up my taskbar a bit (I always have a bunch of other things open too). And it doesn't allow scripts (which or useful only to annoy you or do bad things to your computer). And on my incredibly slow connection that takes forever just to load teh HTML of a page I can read teh page that has been loaded so far without having to wait for all teh code to load (another nifty thing). Plus, along with that, it doesn't completely screw up everything like IE does if there's an error somewhere in loading teh page. And it gives me teh built-in ability to block ad banners (which takes some know-how though). It will transfer bookmarks over from any browser, not just IE, and did I mention it was easy to use? Oh yeah, and teh built-in download manager is really nifty as well, but it does have a couple of bugs left to work out that I found (though most people probably wouldn't even find them). Not bad for a version 1.0. No indeed. I did notice it's so much faster. And I just discovered teh tabs function and was all "Ooh, that's neat!" And I used to have problems trying to open links from other pages, but I don't have that problem anymore. teh only complaint I have is that when I'm on [as] is that when I post on teh boards, I hafta do it in HTML, which I found is teh same as Netscape. That's teh only thing I don't like, but everything else is great.
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Post by Peanutcat on Feb 2, 2005 16:52:52 GMT -5
P-cat is PM-ing me quick descriptions of each volume, and including some of teh more....."interesting"....pics from teh manga.....*Tee-hee* Yes, I HAVE seen teh anime, and I LOVED IT [and wanna' own a copy someday], but P-kitty, ironically enough, hasn't seen it--My favorite part is teh "misunderstood signals" bit, where Dee thinks Ryo has given him teh "green light" to GO [which he HASN'T, of course!] and THEN they're "interrupted" by Bikky and Carol discussing their "bet"....*snicker!* teh one thing I've noticed about teh manga [so far as I can tell under these circumstances] is that teh author DOESN'T know a lot about law enforcement in teh U.S.--OR American cops, for that matter! But, then again, THAT'S not what's really "important" here, now IS it!? teh author does mention that she doesn't know what she's really doing in regards to police proceedures, but you're right! It really doesn't matter!
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Post by Peanutcat on Feb 2, 2005 17:15:27 GMT -5
*sigh* Again wit' da leaving. I'm sooooo lonely!
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